Fleecing Christians

‘We weren’t sure whether it was the Lord’s will, so we laid a fleece’. Mmmm. Good intention, not what that episode is about though.

I was in Judges 6 & 7 last Sunday. And so Gideon’s fleece cropped up. It’s surely one of the most wonderfully butchered pieces of scripture. It’s part of the ongoing narrative in which this judge is presented to us in somewhat unflattering terms. It a passage that’s been long cherished but much misunderstood by Christians. Here’s how the NIV translates it

36 Gideon said to God, “If you will save Israel by my hand as you have promised— 37 look, I will place a wool fleece on the threshing floor. If there is dew only on the fleece and all the ground is dry, then I will know that you will save Israel by my hand, as you said.” 38 And that is what happened. Gideon rose early the next day; he squeezed the fleece and wrung out the dew—a bowlful of water. 39 Then Gideon said to God, “Do not be angry with me. Let me make just one more request. Allow me one more test with the fleece. This time make the fleece dry and the ground covered with dew.” 40 That night God did so. Only the fleece was dry; all the ground was covered with dew.

This is not a positive move. Let’s be clear, Gideon is not looking for guidance. He’s not trying to discern God’s will. He knows what he’s supposed to do.

  • The Midianite army have pitched up for their annual pillage.
  • He’s been empowered by the Spirit.
  • He’s summoned the army to Jezreel.
  • Twice he says that he knows that God has promised to rescue Israel through him (36) & (37).
  • And when he asks for the second sign he begs God not to be angry with him.

He knows what he’s supposed to be doing; he’s supposed to be leading the way in the battle for the kingdom of God.

And what he asks for isn’t a confirmatory sign, it’s a miraculous sign. He asks for the impossible in order to confirm what he knows he ought to be doing. It’s like asking ‘Lord if you want me to speak to my work colleagues about Christ will you send a Japanese Admiral to my front door at precisely 7.20am with a bunch of red roses addressed to my long deceased Grandmother’. [I think I got the Japanese Admiral bit from Adrian Plass].

We simply cannot justify using this as a model approach for guidance. Gideon’s looking for a way out. The fleece isn’t about discerning God’s will. It’s about trying to escape it. So let’s kick fleece laying into touch once and for all. Let’s do something sensible. Let’s make a prayerful decision in light of God’s revealed word no matter how demanding faithful obedience might be. That’s real godliness.

13 thoughts on “Fleecing Christians

  1. Lauri February 11, 2011 / 1:49 pm

    So we apply Gideon in such a way as to say for ourselves that God is going to rescue Israel through us? The sort of direct application from OT stories to Office situations is a quick leap. But I know where you are coming from Perks, just wanted to raise that issue as well. Reading Issiah as if it was about my personal story in relation to God can be an up and down emotional roller costar ride if we don’t first remember that the book is about Israel not me. (Though its value to me should not be dismissed.)

    Left unsaid is of course the fact that such a man as Gideon had fear and yet God was faithful to his requests… Which is quite reassuring and indeed tells us a bit about Gods character, which of course is what the story is about.

  2. theurbanpastor February 11, 2011 / 2:30 pm

    You’re quite right, Lauri, to warn us not to make direct unsubstantiated leaps from Old Testament Irseal to ourselves. Thank you. But, as you say, this post wasn’t about that. I was trying to warn people of the miuddle headed notion that we should be ‘laying a fleece’ rather than making a sensible, prayerful gospel shaped decision!
    The account is not only about God’s character, though. I was always taught not to make anyone the hero of the Old Testament but God. And that’s not a bad instinct. If in any doubt I ask two questions of an OT text that I’ve failed to grasp; what does it teach me about God and what does it teach me about the way in which God saves. But that doesn’t mean that the OT is only about God. Gideon, of course, is a foreshadowing of the greater saviour deliverer, the Lord Jesus and so he functions as a shdow to Jesus’ reality. But he is also an Israelite believer and so foreshadows Christian believers who belong to the Kingdom of God. In my opinion, he functions as a negative example for us (1 Corinthians 10:11).

  3. Lauri Moyle February 15, 2011 / 3:22 pm

    So why not use the possitive emphasis this story has in relation to teaching about Gods faithfulness? Or at the very least point it out somewhere in the post?

    It would go miles to encourage.

    • theurbanpastor February 15, 2011 / 4:22 pm

      Because that wasn’t the point of the post!
      I was being craggy about the wrong use of Gideon’s fleece. I’m allowed to do that, aren’t I?!

  4. Lauri Moyle February 15, 2011 / 5:20 pm


    But my reaction might tell you a bit about what I feel I need more of in my life.

    • theurbanpastor February 15, 2011 / 5:22 pm

      Mate, feel the love – I encouraged you on Sunday; do you not remember? I encouraged you not to wear that fuschia jacket again!

  5. Lauri Moyle February 15, 2011 / 7:46 pm

    Hehe. I don’t event know what fuschia is. 😛

  6. Pete Matthew February 16, 2011 / 10:42 am

    Lauri, that’s because you’re not in touch with your feminie side the way Perks is!

  7. Lauri Moyle February 18, 2011 / 2:28 pm

    How degrading to masculinity Pete, to assume that knowledge of colours is feminine.

  8. Pete Matthew February 18, 2011 / 3:26 pm

    Not knowledge of colours, merely knowledge of fuschia!

  9. Lauri Moyle February 21, 2011 / 9:47 am

    True true. i looked it up and have now been telling anybody that will hear what the colour is.

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